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1
You were born in Dover in the 1950’s . Have you been back at all over
the years?
When I was five, my family uprooted far inland to
Fleet, a north Hampshire satellite of Aldershot, 'home of the British
army'. However, until I was well into my teens, we always spent an August
fortnight in the house where I was born along Union Road, where my Uncle
John still dwells.
Unless it was bucketing down, we spent most
days amongst other holidaymakers on the pebbled beach near the Life Guard
hut. Indeed, in 1960, aged nine, I was awarded a Dover Life Guard Club
certificate for swimming 1,000 yards across the harbour.
As an adult, one particularly
poignant visit to Dover took place in spring 1986, on the day before a
tour of Holland as keyboard player with Dave Berry and the Cruisers. That
afternoon, I saw the cover of What A Difference A Decade Made, my
just-released debut album, in a record shop window in the town centre. It
was one of the most historic moments of my life.
In parenthesis, various cousins live in
Deal and Whitstable - as a close friend does in Littlebourne, near
Canterbury. I'm also an acquaintance of Billy Childish, who is to
Chatham what The Troggs are to Andover.
2.
How much do you think Dover has changed?
The harbour is more crowded by buildings. Certainly,
the breakwater seems nearer than it did when I were a lad.
Streets fanning out from the gasworks
appear far less run-down - and, while Union Road, the principal
thoroughfare, has been Coombe Valley Road for decades, to paraphrase
Shakespeare, "A road by any other name would smell just as sweet.'
Finally, the bomb sites that served as
unofficial playgrounds and car parks have long gone - as has that
lingering post-war sense of aftershock resulting from the port being
half-blown out of existence by the Luftwaffe. It's possible that my
interest in music is traceable to those Remembrance Day parades along the
front, all the more proudly dignified since Dover started paying for the
war, what with my mother, then a pram-pushing young housewife, having to
negotiate a network of queues during the tightest period of the rationing
that was to persist even after we moved in 1954 from an East Cliff flat to
Forge Cottage opposite the Crown - which my paternal grandparents used to
run - in Eythorne, which remains as quiet a village now as it was
then.
3.
What made you go into the music industry?
Someone, I forget who, wrote, "A dreamer
is a madman in quiescence; a madman is a dreamer in action." The
first indications of me putting action over dreaming was, I suppose, that
time-honoured adolescent ritual of miming to records in front of a mirror
to the delight of thousands of ecstatic females that only I could see.
To cut to the chase, I'd bought into the
myth that a kind of droit de seigneur prevailed if you were a pop star, a
licence to to make contact with girls ogling with unmaidenly eagerness the
enigma of untouchable boys-next-door. In other words, like most teenagers,
I was motivated chiefly by self-love and sex.
4.
You’re famous for your books as well as your music and have written for
many journals ranging from The Guardian and The Times to publications such
as Mojo and Record Collector. Do you enjoy writing as much as you enjoy
making music?
The answer to this question has to be 'I dunno' -
because it depends upon so many variables - the mood of the hour; the
degree of self-denial, self-motivation and hard graft a specific task
requires; how many tedious mechanical processes accompany every creative
act, and whether the result is worth it. Performing is no longer a case of
'enjoyment', but perhaps it never was. Instead, it's like being addicted
as surely as a junkie is to heroin. Writing generates more income, and,
sometimes, being hunched in front of a word-processor for hours on end is
as much my idea of a good time as going up the pub might be to someone
else. It's the same with composition.
5.
There are still people
around today who say that Clayson and the Argonauts is one of the greatest
groups ever formed. Can you describe what it was like to lead the
legendary group?
Where
do I begin? The tip of an enormous iceberg embraces being hustled
out of a palais in Reading at gunpoint because the promoter found our show
so "rubbish" that he felt entitled not to pay us; on the point
of national breakthrough, one key member being gaoled for fifteen months,
and two others quitting, one of them fated to co-produce Hilda Baker and
Arthur Ballard's chartbusting duet of "You're The One That I
Want", and the other to father one of Girls Aloud; important media
and music industry folk flocking round me like friendly if over-attentive
wolfhounds; being spoken of and written about in the same sentences as
Wreckless Eric, John Otway, Tom Robinson and Elvis Costello; three years
of expecting to be on Top Of The Pops next week; a BBC Radio One In
Concert and headlining at venues such as the Marquee, the 100 Club,
Amsterdam's Melkweg and any number of university hops; taking the stage at
Queen's College Belfast at the height of the Troubles, where an ecstatic
audience was still demanding more after no less than six encores; being
supported by what became The Eurythmics at some college function in the
Midlands; more dates than could possibly be kept, always, so it seemed,
one week after Wreckless Eric and one week before The Adverts; being
catalysts in the wreckage of a Luton auditorium, a near-lynching at
Barbarella's in Birmingham, and fisticuffs and a consequent car chase
following a midnight matinee in Canning Town; a season in a red-light
district sur le continent; a woman clambering on stage to tear off all her
clothes at Islington's celebrated Hope-and-Anchor, and a bloke doing the
same during almost-but-not-quite a riot at the Granary in Bristol; being
in a premier position on rock's lunatic fringe" (Melody Maker)
while running a provincial outfit most of the time from a telephone kiosk
down the road; the van mutating into a travelling asylum with the
drip-drip of those antagonisms, discords and intrigues that make pop
groups what they are; a godawful one-shot single issued on Virgin Records
against my better judgement; its B-side entering Belgium's Top Twenty
fleetingly after a pirate radio presenter in the Netherlands began
spinning it by mistake; a voyage to a lower circle of hell for me and an
Argonauts in gradually more constant flux; rave reviews for What A
Difference A Decade Made in both Folk Roots (!) and The
Observer; receiving an agitated call from our road manager to say that,
while he was loading up the previous night, £500-worth of borrowed
microphones had been stolen, and lastly, with our very name a millstone
round our necks, making a seemingly final public appearance on 20th
January 1986 after ten years as a working band. By then, we were like a
soldier that had been fatally wounded, but kept fighting, not knowing how
severe the injury was. To all intents and purposes, we'd been over for
ages, a faded memory, a tattered newspaper cutting. Thus we scattered like
vermin disturbed in a granary. All that was left - until now - were some
scratched vinyl and the sound of our aural junk-sculptures as a spooky
drift from the shadows in some lonely back-of-beyond dance hall, maybe one
refurbishment away from demolition...
6. What made you want to reform in 2005?
A telephone call from out of the blue that summer from Damaged Goods, a
London record company, resulted in the release before the year was out of
Sunset On A Legend, a double-CD retrospective. This exhumation of a
chapter in my life that I imagined was dead and buried also involved a
regrouping of key personnel for what amounted to a belated 'farewell
performance' at the Metro, an ultra-trendy West End venue. While it was
hardly Pink Floyd at Live 8, we fired on all cylinders to a capacity crowd
of all ages. The president of my long-defunct US fan club flew in from
Minnesota with her niece. Other parties arrived from as far away as
Scotland and France. Since then, there's been more 'farewell performances'
than Frank Sinatra - and an in-concert DVD will be in the shops in the New
Year.
7. You have worked with many different artists.
Do you have a particular favourite experience.
I've a particularly peculiar one, although it
didn't involve any of the more famous artists with whom I've worked.
These, incidentally, have included Screaming Lord Sutch, Dave Berry, The
Yardbirds, Twinkle, The Troggs and Dartford's own Dick Taylor, founder
member of both The Rolling Stones and The Pretty Things - and the most
accomplished guitarist with whom I've ever trodden the boards - plus
others whom I'd known first as figures on a television screen when I was
still at school.
In spring 2003, Bob Taylor, a former member
of The Downliners Sect, summoned me to a studio in Brompton to assist with
his hitherto unreleased 'concept album' of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle.
Attending too were Art Wood - brother of Rolling Stone Ronnie - Dick
Heckstall-Smith of Colosseum and two of a still-functional Downliners
Sect. The five of us were required to congregate round an omni-directional
microphone to re-enact the Battle of Hastings by bawling scripted lines
actually in Anglo-Saxon. It got very frenzied and degenerated into chaos,
but Bob - who videoed our efforts - seemed pleased with the outcome, and,
in licensed premises afterwards, Art spoke for all of us when he
calculated that it had been the strangest session in which he'd ever
participated during a long, if sporadic, career as a recording artist.
PS: I'd like to say a big 'hello' to The Record Players, a combo from
Thanet, who supported Clayson and the Argonauts on a memorable 1977 night
at Margate's Dreamland.
8. What do you think lies ahead for you now?
As a performance artist, my working life has been
so unpredictable and eye-stretching that if I was engaged to play at a
ballroom on Pluto tomorrow, it might not seem all that odd. At present,
I'm preparing material for another solo album to be produced by Wreckless
Eric.
I'm also working on a commissioned
autobiography with the working title Nut Rocker . Another publisher is
"interested" in a Clayson novel written about ten years ago,
which gathered consequent dust until I re-read it a few weeks ago. |